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Is it time to reconsider Toolbox? – Polls

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Toolbox is a piece of SolidWorks software that I have been in the habit of giving very poor reviews. In the SolidWorks releases prior to 2007, these reviews were definitely warranted, but in 2007 they (partially) solved the Huge Screws issue, and since then they have solved a number of smaller problems.

Due to all of these changes, I’ve recently done a bit of research on Toolbox again. It has been a couple of years since I went through the software thoroughly, and it was time again, mainly because of preparations for the upcoming SolidWorks Administration Bible (available this winter?). Anyway, Toolbox is a huge administration topic, and using the book as a platform to rant with the same old tired rants is not really an option. That’s what the blog is for ;o). How huge of an administration topic is Toolbox? Well, here’s a list of functionality that you will find either inside or associated with Toolbox:

  • Fasteners: screws, bolts, nuts, washers,
  • Bearings
  • Bearing calculator
  • Bushings
  • Keys
  • O-rings
  • Grooves (O-rings and circlips)
  • Pins
  • Sprockets, Gears and pulleys
  • Retaining Rings, Circlips
  • Structural Members
  • Beam calculator
  • Cams
  • International standards including ANSI (USA), AS (Australia), BSI (UK), CISC (Canada), DIN (Germany),  GB (China), IS (India), ISO (International/Europe), JIS (Japan), KS (Korea), and MIL (US Military).
  • User-defined standards
  • Uses mate references
  • Brand name parts including Helicoil, PEM, SKF, Torrington, Truarc, Unistrut
  • Mold components including DME, Hasco, PCS, Superior, Progressive
  • Smart Fasteners: auto-populates assemblies with fasteners, also uses semi-auto mode
  • Smart Fastener configuration with fastener types, hole types and size tolerance
  • Hole Wizard: database of hole sizes to fit standard hardware including 3 fit conditions
  • mass-populate holes through selection techniques
  • Link hardware and hole sizes
  • Special recognition as Toolbox parts in PDM
  • Limiting selection by standard, type and size
  • Automatic application of custom properties
  • Customized part numbers and descriptions
  • Specify drive type and thread display for screws
  • Option to use configurations or create parts for separate sizes
  • Administrator lock down of library settings with password
  • Sharing Toolbox between multiple users

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Wow. That’s a list. The problem is, does it all work? And if it does, why don’t people love this stuff? Is it really just that we have become so accustomed to hating Toolbox? My new take on Toolbox is that the main things wrong with it are that 1) Smart Fasteners delivers much less than its potential in fully automatic mode, and 2) that the documentation really doesn’t even begin to be adequate and 3) Toolbox is not a plug and play library – contrary to the “dumb-it-down” philosophy at work in the rest of the software, Toolbox is too complicated – it requires implementation setup for any set up other than a stand alone user who never shares assemblies and doesn’t use Toolbox meta data.

They have improved the documentation significantly, but the problem is still the “why” question. I think SW fails to realize that knowing what every button does is not enough. You have to somehow be able to apply that information to a real world situation. There has to be some sort of interpretation.

Again, I have mixed feelings about the documentation inadequacies, and maybe this is all by design, who knows. If they had great documentation, I’d still have a 9-5 day job. So as a writer, I’m glad the dox suck, but as a customer advocate, I wanna rail at it a little bit.

What were the major arguments against Toolbox? Has the situation really changed that much to warrant a whole bloc of people changing their minds about it? Really the big thing for me was the huge screws problem, where configurations would go missing due to changes or reinstallation, and you’d lose all your size info in assemblies. But that has been fixed, it now (since 2007) recreates missing configurations. If you look at Toolbox now, you see that it is very complex, at least the set up for it.

Why is there no option for just a simple library? You can actually use TB to create a simple library.

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  1. cubalibre00
    July 8th, 2009 at 08:34 | #1

    I like TB, but I use locally.
    In shared mode is very very slow.

  2. July 8th, 2009 at 10:21 | #2

    My experience with toolbox is that I use it to create “standard” parts that go in a static library. And I have to say this works very well for me.

    In my case all I need is bearings, some screws and some washers. I realize that the list of options is much bigger than that, but I don’t have a use for it at this point in time.

    One of the advantages of using parts from a static library, is that it’s easy for me to share assemblies with vendors in Asia.

    In my opinion, sometimes it’s better to have “dumb” parts. Take a bearing as an example, a #6000 will always be 10x26x8mm. Why does that part need intelligence? All the information I need from standard parts is their size to ensure proper functionality of my assemblies.

  3. Steve Calvert
    July 8th, 2009 at 10:25 | #3

    Matt, I’m afraid of Toolbox because we use Smarteam as our PDM system and I’m not sure if it could be set up correctly.

  4. smartin
    July 8th, 2009 at 11:35 | #4

    I’ve used Toolbox before, and I thought it was useful, though at the time I was in a situation where we could avoid some of the big drawbacks (never shared assemblies outside the company, and everyone theoretically had access to the same toolbox library). I’d use it again given the chance, but it’s considered out of the question by my current employer. There are much bigger problems we should solve before considering implementing it anyhow – like any given component having a different part number (and often model) depending on which office you’re working at.

  5. July 8th, 2009 at 11:42 | #5

    I use Toolbox as a parts generator and put the parts in a static library. That seems to be the best use of it in my opinion.

  6. Neil
    July 8th, 2009 at 14:22 | #6

    Hi Matt,
    I dont have Toolbox having had SW std all along but everything I have read about it over the years suggests its something to avoid anyway.
    I really could do with a simple parts library for nuts and bolts, O rings etc. – the everyday stuff.
    I suspect a lot of users would like that too.
    Really I dont understand why this couldnt be included in Std even if they call it PartsExpress and leave out the calculators or whatever.
    Why is it I can have some Express functionality for Molds/Simult/Sustain but I get no basic parts with SW?
    Perhaps these items are too high tech to be considered safe for a common CAD monkey to handle..
    IMO this is another aspect of the whole SW package that needs a revisit.
    SW need to get serious about providing useful engineering tools and quit busking for content with more and pretty UI enhancements.

  7. Rick McWilliams
    July 8th, 2009 at 15:04 | #7

    I make good use of the Solidworks toolbox.The toolbox that I really want is a library of the CAD models from the McMaster Carr catalog. Those parts are nice native Solidworks parts. The on line catalog can provide the browser to find the right part. The price and specifications are thus handy.

  8. Dale Dunn
    July 8th, 2009 at 15:07 | #8

    Most if not all of the content and calculators included in TB are available on-line for free, somewhere. That reduces the value of TB to being a one-stop shop for the content, and some automation. The automation didn’t work that well for me the last time I tried it (’06, think) and the content lacks custom properties I can use.

    I might have used it as a component generator if not for the fact that you have to add custom property information manually. You can do that faster for most part families if you model it yourself with a design table. I have that done for just about everything we use, so now I don’t even need a component generator.

  9. Anna Wood
    July 8th, 2009 at 20:39 | #9

    Matt,

    Toolbox does not have enough value for us to upgrade our 5 core SolidWorks seats to Pro seats. We make little use of the 1 seat of Premuim add-ins. To many dollars for very little value to us.

    Cheers,

    Anna

  10. legohead
    July 8th, 2009 at 21:37 | #10

    We use TB for 98% of our hardware (screws/nuts/washers/snap rings/etc) the other 2% we draw or get from McMaster. The TB is on the server and populates the drawing BOM with descriptions and P/Ns. I don’t manage it but hasn’t given me any trouble.

  11. July 9th, 2009 at 08:58 | #11

    I seem to dodge the problems most people see with TB by letting TB create the geometry, and then immediately saving the hardware in my current project directory. This separates the model from any of the unexpected headaches (like lost/changed configurations) and essentially makes a static model for me.

    What I cannot stand is that each part I create ignores my standard Part template. Why? Can there possibly be a rational explanation for displaying each dimension at 3-point type–or else at 1/2 the size of my monitor? (No.) How does SolidWorks come up with the most useless possible defaults for their templates? (I’ll bet they pay someone to do this.)

    The other headache is the reckless/dangerous defaults of the installation manager when installing a given version of SolidWorks. If you go with the defaults, you must understand this will be the only version of SolidWorks installed on your machine at a given time–since no distinction is made between versions. (I run v2007, v2008, and v2009 concurrently.) The default installation directory will write over whatever you had in your previous install unless you rename it something reasonable, like “SolidWorks2009″ and “SolidWorks2009 Data”. Fail to do this, and you’ll certainly run into frustrations with things like Toolbox.

  12. July 9th, 2009 at 09:12 | #12

    I look forward to the administration bible. It’s tough to keep all the options straight and some guidance will be greatly appreciated from my side.

  13. HoffY
    July 9th, 2009 at 23:44 | #13

    i use ToolBox. But only for a single user situation and only in its simplistic form. i.e. create a bolt/nut/washer/pin/bearing etc and save it out as a separate part to go with the project its used in (i think i do this to try and avoid troubles of years gone by with TB).

    I have been wanting to create full static libraries so i can set up every file to have the properties i want and the settings in each file how i want (massive dimensions or view quality low or planes not autosized etc). But again i use it in a simple form and i’ve not bothered to get that far yet!

  14. HoffY
    July 9th, 2009 at 23:47 | #14

    PS. i forgot to say… i’m not sure if TB has the options to do what i mention above (i dont believe there is a “use default template for TB parts” option but i’ve not dived in so deep due to time limites in recent versions. But basically i feel it could do with some ‘fixing up’ still.

    Some important parts of SW seem to be left as old clunky things while other parts are made flashy new bits even though they pose minimal real world benefit!

  15. yoni
    November 7th, 2009 at 17:53 | #15

    I am useing solid 2009 student kit, and i dont have the TB option at the Tools>add ins .
    why is that?

    • November 7th, 2009 at 18:04 | #16

      Probably because it isn’t installed? Don’t you have a place to go for support? Doesn’t my site have a spell checker?

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